John Marston/Relationships (2024)

These are the relationships John Marston has had prior to and throughout the events of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2.

Contents

  • 1 Family
    • 1.1 Father
    • 1.2 Abigail Marston
    • 1.3 Jack Marston
    • 1.4 Unnamed Daughter
  • 2 Van der Linde Gang
    • 2.1 Dutch van der Linde
    • 2.2 Arthur Morgan
    • 2.3 Bill Williamson
    • 2.4 Javier Escuella
    • 2.5 Micah Bell
    • 2.6 Hosea Matthews
    • 2.7 Lenny Summers
    • 2.8 Sean MacGuire
    • 2.9 Charles Smith
    • 2.10 Sadie Adler
    • 2.11 Kieran Duffy
    • 2.12 Orville Swanson
    • 2.13 Leopold Strauss
    • 2.14 Molly O'Shea
    • 2.15 Susan Grimshaw
    • 2.16 Karen Jones
    • 2.17 Tilly Jackson
    • 2.18 Mary-Beth Gaskill
    • 2.19 Josiah Trelawny
    • 2.20 Simon Pearson
    • 2.21 Uncle
  • 3 Strangers
    • 3.1 Hamish Sinclair
    • 3.2 Charlotte Balfour
    • 3.3 Joe Butler
    • 3.4 Mickey
  • 4 Others
    • 4.1 Bonnie MacFarlane
    • 4.2 Drew MacFarlane
    • 4.3 Amos
    • 4.4 Leigh Johnson
    • 4.5 Jonah
    • 4.6 Eli
    • 4.7 Nigel West Dickens
    • 4.8 Seth Briars
    • 4.9 Irish
    • 4.10 Landon Ricketts
    • 4.11 Abraham Reyes
    • 4.12 Luisa Fortuna
    • 4.13 Vincente de Santa
    • 4.14 Agustin Allende
    • 4.15 Espinoza
    • 4.16 Harold MacDougal
    • 4.17 Nastas

Family[]

Father[]

John spoke of his father positively, recalling his love for his homeland of Scotland. However, his father passed away when John was only eight years old, and because of this John likely didn't have a very strong relationship with him, though John does seem to somewhat mourn his death and recalls his passing to Bonnie MacFarlane with a somber tone.

Abigail Marston[]

John and Abigail shared a sexual relationship which resulted in the birth of their son, Jack. It seems that in the beginning the two did not get along at all. A year after Jack was born, John disappeared on both Abigail and his newborn son for an entire year. While Abigail eventually abandoned her lifestyle of being a prostitute and attempted to live a better life after Jack was born, John struggled to deal with this newfound sense of responsibility, which often sparked many arguments between the two. Even though the two always came into conflict they still cared about one another deep down. In 1899, as Dutch slowly became insane and the gang fell apart, with encouragement from Arthur Morgan, John chose Abigail and his son over the deteriorating gang and fled with them.

For years, John struggled to live a straight life. It wasn't until Abigail left him with his son in 1907 that John realized how much he had loved them and began to value the family life they could have. John finally turned his life around and built a ranch for his family, winning Abigail's affection once more and married her after many years.

By 1911, John and Abigail's relationship had improved significantly, often sharing lighthearted banter with a restored enthusiasm that they would be able to lead better lives for both themselves and their son. Tragically, John would sacrifice himself during the Government's assault on Beecher's Hope, giving time for Abigail and Jack to escape safely, and achieving his final redemption for the love of his family.

Jack Marston[]

A year after Jack was born, John disappeared on both Abigail and his newborn son for an entire year. This was largely due to his doubts of Jack truly being his and not wanting a family life at first. In his later teenage years, Jack would recall how often John was absent in his childhood, something that John would later come to regret. While John struggled to be a decent father during his life in the gang, he would later leave the gang lifestyle in 1899 in order to provide a better existence for his family. With the gang lifestyle now behind him, John would attempt to spend more time with his son. While Jack was more into literature and reading as opposed to the gunslinging outdoorsman his father was, the two were still able to bond and John did everything he could to give Jack a normal life. John is seen teaching Jack how to make an arrowhead early on, and later on, he is seen playing knights with Jack but is rudely interrupted by Micah, who attempts to violently tease Jack; an enraged John then shields his son from him, showing his love for his son.

In Jack's teenage years, he would try to not only emulate but also impress his father, even putting his life in danger when he tried to hunt a bear on his own, even though he didn't know how to hunt. John would comfort his son after this incident and reminded him that he wasn't going to be absent in his life anymore. Tragically, John was killed shortly after and Jack would not only mourn his loss but also go on to avenge his death years later, showing how much Jack had loved his father.

Unnamed Daughter[]

The exact details of John's status with his daughter is unknown. She was likely born after the dissolution of Van Der Linde Gang and died sometime after.

John mentioned in Father Abraham that she was in Heaven. From his sad tone, he appears to have loved her and still mourns her death.

Van der Linde Gang[]

Dutch van der Linde[]

John looked up to Dutch as his mentor and father having been brought up believing in the philosophy of making a difference in the world by robbing from those who had too much and giving it to those who needed it.

John was often referred to as being one of Dutch’s favorites and, as well as Arthur Morgan, one of Dutch’s proudest disciples. However, much like Arthur Morgan, John too would also question some methods and moves of Dutch, eventually beginning to doubt Dutch’s plans (but much more earlier compared to Arthur as he witnessed Dutch kill Heidi McCourt during the Blackwater Massacre), one of which was getting involved with the two families as it bought a lot of trouble on them. John would also be more doubtful of Dutch’s plan and their future, especially as Dutch starts becoming mentally unstable and starts to enjoy killing. Both John and Arthur are disturbed by Dutch killing and feeding Angelo Bronte to an alligator, questioning what philosophy covered that exactly. Dutch brushed this off, claiming it was either the gang or him and decided it to be him. Both Arthur and John looked at each other in a moment of shock, both seeing Dutch’s growing mental stability. During the Saint Denis botched bank robbery, John would eventually get captured while witnessing Dutch doing nothing but watch, eventually leading to John to start doubting Dutch even more, especially after Dutch scolded Arthur and Sadie for going after him. Near the end of the Van Der Linde Gang's time, Micah Bell would continue to manipulate Dutch, up to the point where Dutch would believe John was a rat and ratted them out about the Saint Denis Bank Robbery along with his friend Arthur, calling them snakes, showing that Dutch’s faith and trust in his proudest boys were gone. During the ride to the oil fields during Eagle Flies attack, he openly asks Dutch about his plan when he stated he had one. John’s little shred of trust and faith in Dutch would then be broken when he was shot off the Army Payroll Train Robbery with Dutch, Javier, Bill and Micah leaving him for dead. This would be the sole purpose of John leaving the gang not before confronting Dutch one last time, arriving in time for Arthur’s confrontation of Micah and finally understanding that Dutch’s philosophy was all a lie and an excuse for the gang to rob people.

John would ultimately side with Arthur whom was the only one who has had John's back while Dutch would see both him and Arthur, his most proudest ”sons”, as traitors, but a sudden arrival of Pinkerton’s led by Edgar Ross would eventually allow both Arthur and Dutch to escape separately. John would leave for good when Arthur gave his life to hold back Pinkertons from intercepting John much to his protest while Dutch would leave without Micah.

In 1907 when John confronted Micah he was shocked to see Dutch there and asked why he was there with Micah saying they’re starting a gang: John tried convincing Dutch to stop Micah but Dutch said John betrayed him, with the latter retorting that Dutch started it all the while Dutch would retort with Marston thinking only of himself, to which John said he thinks differently; John would tell Dutch that he and the gang had done their best for him and that it wasn’t his fault for the way things turned out and told him that killing him would not solve anything, eventually asking Dutch to say something, to which Dutch replied he hasn’t got nothing to say much anymore and eventually shoots Micah allowing John to finish him. Dutch then walks away ignoring John’s thanks to him.

4 years after his last encounter and soon after returning from Mexico after chasing both Escuella and Williamson under orders of government agents holding his family hostage, Dutch and John would encounter each other once again during Dutch’s visit at the Blackwater bank with some renegade natives. John’s opinion on Dutch is conflicted and in someways can be considered hypocritical, while he still held a lot of respect for Dutch because of the fact he raised John as an orphan teaching him how to read and grew up with his philosophy, he would also have some negative thoughts of Dutch as he left John to die numerous times. During John’s last confrontation with his former mentor and father figure, Dutch would eventually open up and admit that he cannot fight change and that all his life he ever believed in was fighting and that he cannot change, eventually telling John that when he dies the government would find someone else to pin things on. His last words would be “Our time has passed, John,” signifying Dutch finally coming to terms with the life of outlaws and the old west is done. John would not shoot Dutch and would more or less let him take his own life possibly seeing that Dutch Would’ve had no way out.

Dutch’s allusion of the government finding another monster to pin things on would turn out true as Edgar Ross, who had forced John to capture his former mentor and friends Bill Williamson and Javier Escuella, would double cross John and kill him.

Arthur Morgan[]

When John joined Dutch's gang, he grew to befriend and respect its early members entirely, including Arthur. John took a yearlong break from the gang after he and Abigail had a son which greatly angered Arthur and caused him to resent John for a time. John eventually returned only to be belittled by Morgan for his absence and had always teased him for his weak points from that point, sometimes outright insulting him. John never really took offense to this and would just ignore him. As time went on both John and Arthur become slightly better to one another especially after Arthur, Dutch and John get back Jack and John thanking him, and Arthur telling him to listen to Dutch and to go spend time with his family. Near the end of the gangs time and having been caught under a lot of life-threatening situations and constantly being saved by Arthur had John give more respect to him like he used to with Arthur doing the same, Arthur will even state in his journal he does care about him and sees he’s become less of a fool than he used to and admitted he did break out John for not only Abigail and Jack but for John as well, eventually calling each other brothers signifying their strained friendship has been mended properly. Both caught wind of Dutch's unhinged mental behavior (although John was much more quicker owing to the Blackwater incident) and started to believe all the years they were together were for nothing and Arthur would convince John to take Jack and Abigail and to leave the gang, during Arthur‘s final confrontation with Dutch and Micah he would return after being left for dead by Dutch and side with Arthur and escape with him from Beaver Hollow, the gangs last hideout that they would be in. Arthur would eventually help get Marston away from his life as an outlaw and gave his own life to stall the Pinkertons from reaching him much knowing Arthur was going to die from his sickness much to John’s protest, Arthur would give John his Hat and Satchel with all his belongings, his last words to Arthur would be him calling his brother to which Arthur acknowledges and knows. Eight years later, John kills Micah Bell in revenge for Arthur's death, showing his devotion to sacrifice everything he values by avenging his best friend and adopted brother.

John for the rest of his life would forever be indebted to Arthur and was deeply saddened to leave him behind; had it not been for Arthur‘s actions, John would never have started a new life, buy the land that would later become his home and formally propose to Abigail (using Mary’s ring which Arthur kept). While he would not talk about him, John would think of Arthur a lot and would remember him as the one who saved his life. John would later take Arthur’s words on running and not looking back to heart as years later after Edgar Ross betrays his deal, John would tell both Abigail and Jack to keep riding and don’t look back and would mimic a heroic act of sacrifice, an action that Arthur had performed to John years ago.

Bill Williamson[]

Bill and John appear to have gotten along. John admits in a drunken conversation that Bill, despite being a funny fella, is "okay." However by the end of the Van Der Linde Gang’s time, Bill would lose trust in John, especially after the latter started doubting Dutch and assume he’s the rat as he claims to Arthur, who he also loses respect and trust in too, during Morgan’s last confrontation of Micah, Bill along with Javier sides with Dutch and Micah against both John and Arthur, Bill would later escape from the Pinkerton ambush along with Javier and the two are not seen again.

Years later by 1911 and after starting his own gang and becoming feared in New Austin, Bill would eventually reunite with his former friend who he criticized for his fancy words and refused John’s pleas to go with him proclaiming that he is in charge now and implying both him and Dutch aren’t the boss of him no more, he then tells John to go back and tell his employers to send someone “a little more impressive next time” to which John responds by attempting to draw his revolver only to be met with a shot from a repeater from one of Williamson’s fellow members and leave John to die while saying “Poor John”.

John and Bill would encounter each other a second time after their attack on Ridgewood Farm threatening John to walk away and that he didn’t kill him before and that he will, John would insult Bill saying he isn’t a man to which Bill retorts by saying John always had a high opinion of himself and that Dutch thought of John as an ”Arrogant Son Of A Bitch” and saying he was half right before sending his men to kill John, Leigh Johnson and his deputies.

John and Bill will eventually encounter each other one last time in Escalera after Bill escaped to Mexico with help from Javier Escuella and put into the governments protection and after John’s long chase around Mexico searching for him, after a chase around Escalera and stopping the wagon he and Allende were on Bill and John exchange banter with John proclaiming he’ll kill him and Dutch and live longer than them.

Javier Escuella[]

John and Javier had a mostly positive relationship. In Enter, Pursued by a Memory Javier goes out to look for John as he believes that if the roles were reversed then John would search for him; John and Javier would also work well together too. However, once the gang enters its decline and Dutch starts to go insane, Javier would start to lose trust in John, whom he calls an "arrogant son of bitch" after the latter tells him the Van Der Linde gang is not his family, and his fellow gang member Arthur Morgan and still blindly follows Dutch and his ways, showing how loyal he will be to him. Javier at one point even expresses dismay that John was not hanged soon enough after the latter’s arrest and imprisonment following the botched Saint Denis bank robbery. When Dutch betrays John and Arthur numerous times, and after Arthur confronts Micah after discovering he is the rat, and Dutch asks who is with him or betraying him, Javier sides with Dutch even after Arthur begs them to go with them; however, he hesitates to aim his gun at both of his former friends when the Pinkertons attack, and he escapes along with Dutch and the rest. Eventually he and Bill separate from Dutch and Micah never to be seen again. However, by 1911, in The Gates of El Presidio, John and Javier reunite and they still seem to care for each other on some level as, rather than killing John when he saw the opportunity, he instead distracts John and runs away. If John chooses to kill him, then he will shed a tear, the only time in the story John does this.

Micah Bell[]

John and Micah do not get along, much like Arthur and the rest of the gang with John holding Micah responsible for encouraging Dutch to kill Heidi McCourt and subsequently causing the Blackwater Massacre, John and Arthur often joked that Micah thought he was the boss of the gang. At one point when Micah violently teased Jack, John became enraged and angrily told Micah to say whatever insult he wanted to him instead of Jack. In American Venom, John, Sadie and Charles get word of Micah's whereabouts and John and Micah start a shootout, where John ultimately avenges Arthur by killing Micah.

Hosea Matthews[]

Much like Arthur, Hosea (alongside Dutch) took John in and taught him how to read, write, hunt, and use a gun while also instilling him a philosophical outlook and a love for nature. Unlike Arthur, Hosea quickly forgave John for leaving the gang for a year and understands that he knows he did wrong. Despite this, however, he's also expressed disappointment in that John is avoiding his responsibilities as a father to Jack and a husband (though not yet legally until 8 years later) to Abigail and is constantly trying to convince him to take responsibility for his family and that Jack was truly his son despite John's insistence that he wasn't. Despite his lack of success to convince John the first few times, he eventually manages to get through to John.

Unfortunately, it was also at this time that Sean was killed by the Grays and Jack was kidnapped by the Braithwaites, which forced both of them and the entire gang to look for Jack and flee once more. When Hosea and the rest of the gang's gunmen stormed the Braithwaite mansion, Hosea constantly kept John in check so that he won’t do anything reckless in their search for the boy and later assured him that things are going to work out when they decided to move to another camp.

When Hosea was murdered in the Saint Denis heist, John was angered and told Dutch that they shouldn't have killed Bronte and robbed the bank afterwards. Hosea's death had deeply saddened John and he admits to Arthur that his death still does not seem real to him even after spending so long in jail and that the years he spent with him made him look up to Hosea as family. In his later years, John seldom talks about Hosea but would fondly remember and talk about him each time he (or someone else) brings him up, as for instance, he confirms to Jack that his memory of Hosea being a great fisherman was true. John would also use Hosea's advice in living his own life and on how to be a father to Jack.

Lenny Summers[]

Lenny and John don't physically interact much in or outside of camp. When Arthur and Sadie rescue John from Sisika Penitentiary, John expresses shock and sadness about Lenny's death.

Sean MacGuire[]

Similar to Arthur, John thinks of Sean as more of a playful annoyance than a real gunman and member, most evidently during the train robbery in Chapter 2, where he tells Sean not to come and is annoyed when Arthur allows him to. John displays some mild annoyance about Sean's loudmouthed and mischievous attitude joking that he blames Arthur Morgan and Charles Smith "for saving him", i.e. rescuing Sean after he had been captured by bounty hunters, thus "forcing" the gang to have to endure his antics once again. Otherwise not many interactions between John and Sean are shown during the game. However, after Sean's death, during a ride from Clemens Point to Shady Belle John expresses sorrow about Sean's passing and shares his doubts to Arthur with regard to Dutch's decisions and actions.

Charles Smith[]

John and Charles worked well together during the Train robbery with Sean and Arthur and seemed to get along well as John likes him cause he’s quiet and a no nonsense sort of person, John and Charles both would see the gangs deteriorating state and both started to doubt Dutch. In 1907, Charles is shocked and seemed relieved that John was alive along with Uncle having the fall of the Van Der Linde Gang’s fall hitting him hard, and during his fist fight John would bet on him cheer him on. John later helped Charles escape Saint Denis and allowed him to stay at Beecher’s Hope for as long as he wants believing that the open country would be good for Charles. John would be extremely thankful for Charles help with building his ranch, regarding him as a "pillar of strength". Both held great respect for Arthur and remember him as a good man.

Charles would also join Sadie and John on their chase for Micah and participated in John and Abigail’s wedding. Afterwards, the two friends parted on good terms with John and Charles left for Canada to start his own life similar to John’s.

Sadie Adler[]

John and Sadie didn’t interact too much during their time in the Van Der Linde gang, though John was grateful for not only her and Arthur’s rescue from Sisika but also for taking care of Jack and Abigail and ensuring their safety, with Sadie keeping an eye on them during Arthur’s confrontation.

Years later in 1907, John and Sadie end up having a close friendship and both vowing to stop Micah one day in honor of Arthur should they find him and even congratulating John on wanting to formally marry Abigail feeling very happy for him. Sadie would also be present along with Charles Smith and Uncle for his wedding. It would seem John would be also indebted to Sadie Adler since if not for her he wouldn’t have seen both Abigail and Jack safe and okay or be able to find work in form of bounties to help pay off his bank debt. After John and Abigail‘s wedding and a long recovery from her stab wound on Mount Hagen, she leaves the ranch and parts ways with John and his family on good terms.

Kieran Duffy[]

Nothing much is seen here, in Horseshoe Overlook John is seen mocking Kieran, when the two of them share a horse during the ride from the gang's camp to Six Point Cabin. During the O'Driscolls attack on Shady Belle John can be overheard voicing the opinion that Kieran has betrayed the gang and that they should have never taken him in, to which Arthur reprimands him, that he doubts Kieran betrayed the gang, considering the gruesome things they inflicted on him ("Did you see what they did to him?"). After the gang has fended of the O'Driscoll attack, John expresses shock about Kieran's death, saying he started to like him.

Orville Swanson[]

Swanson and John don't interact much but it can be assumed that he feels pity for him like the rest of the gang. Swanson is seen taking care of John in Colter, after he is rescued by Arthur and Javier.

Leopold Strauss[]

Strauss and John don't physically interact much in or outside of camp. In the epilogue, upon learning from Charles that Strauss was beaten to death by Pinkertons, he remarks that "some folk is strong in ways you can't see," implying that although he mostly thought of Strauss as being rather weaselly in much the same way Arthur did, he ultimately respected him for his sheer loyalty to the gang.

Molly O'Shea[]

Molly and John don't physically interact in camp.

Susan Grimshaw[]

While unconfirmed, it could be assumed that John thinks of Susan as a harsh, motherly figure, like most of the gang does. In the epilogue John can pay his respects at her grave.

Karen Jones[]

John is seen drunkenly flirting with Karen at one point in the story, but not much else is seen between the two characters.

Tilly Jackson[]

They are not seen interacting much in camp however, they got along.

In 1907, John can meet Tilly in the epilogue and talk to her, where he thanks Tilly for rescuing Jack from the Pinkertons. He congratulated her on being married and having a family of her own, as she thanked him and promised to write him.

Mary-Beth Gaskill[]

During Chapter 1, she can be seen sitting at John's bedside in the gang's hideout in Colter, while he's seriously wounded after being attacked by wolves, tending to him.

John can meet Mary-Beth in the epilogue and talk to her, he congratulated her on her success as a writer with the ever modest Mary-Beth gifting him her book before departing.

Josiah Trelawny[]

Josiah and John don't physically interact much in or outside of camp.

Simon Pearson[]

While not interacting much in camp, 8 years later during the epilogue their relationship seems positive and somewhat brotherly. Both give each other congratulations on their new lives: John being a rancher and Pearson having a store of his own.

Uncle[]

John and Uncle get along somewhat well, and are seen interacting during their time in the gang, though John is hard on Uncle, they are loyal to each other, and Uncle is a supporting character in the epilogue. When Uncle gets captured by the Skinner Brothers, John becomes incredibly worried and increasingly more angry, muttering to himself that his kidnappers should pray they'd never find him and after Charles speaks about the possibility of having to mercy kill Uncle due to possible terminal injuries, John slightly panics and reassures himself that Uncle will be alright, and the act won't be necessary. Uncle helps John build his home, and looks after his family when he goes out for Micah. When Uncle gets into an altercation with a bar patron in Blackwater in a random event, John can approach the man and talk to him. In this conversation it is revealed that John regards Uncle to be "a good man", whose qualities are hidden "underneath all this....personality".

Later in 1911, with his family captured and him being forced down to New Austin, John entrusts Uncle with his ranch. Unsurprisingly, Uncle fails to keep proper maintenance of it which results in the cattle being stolen, the chicken being eaten by wolves among other problems. While they work hard to rebuild the ranch, it all proves useless as BOI agents and the U.S Army are sent to attack the ranch under Agent Ross. Uncle is killed in the shootout and John is saddened by his death, but holds back his emotions in order to fulfill Uncle's dying wish to make sure Abigail and Jack are safe.

Strangers[]

Hamish Sinclair[]

If Arthur has met Hamish but not completed all 4 encounters with him, John can visit Hamish Sinclair's home near O'Creagh's Run, where he'll inform Hamish of his connection to Arthur Morgan. Hamish then recalls his friendship with Arthur, and is saddened to hear about his death shortly after they met. John and Hamish have a long and friendly conversation, essentially continuing the relationship Hamish started with Arthur. John accompanies Hamish on some hunting and fishing trips, where they have good times together. During one hunting trip, the two pursue a legendary boar that Hamish heard was attacking and killing several animals in the region. While tracking it down, the boar appears and attacks Hamish, severely injuring him. He tells John to take good care of his horse before dying moments later. John manages to kill the boar when it comes back, after which he mourns the loss of his friend. In his journal, John writes about Hamish and the genuine friendship they had.

Charlotte Balfour[]

If Arthur has met Charlotte and completed all 3 encounters he can have with her in 1899, John can go back to her house and visit her in 1907. He'll introduce himself as a friend of Arthur and inform her of his death shortly after the last time they met. John also tells her that Arthur held her in high regard, and she expresses her gratitude towards Arthur for helping her when she needed it the most. From that point on, she considers John a friend and that he's always welcome at her home.

Joe Butler[]

When talking with Joe he, similar to Arthur, can listen to him and to talk with him and inform him of Arthur's death.

Mickey[]

When talking with Mickey he, similar to Arthur, can listen to him and while not allowing a hug between the two, is still willing to talk with him and informs him of Arthur's death.

Others[]

Bonnie MacFarlane[]

Bonnie MacFarlane is the first person John meets and technically his first friend during his time in New Austin. John and Bonnie had a good friendship and he was forever grateful for Bonnie, as if it wasn’t for her ,John would’ve died after his confrontation with Bill Williamson, and Bonnie (in turn) would return the favor in any way after saving the horses in the MacFarlane’s Ranch barn. She also offered him cattle as promised after he finished his work for the government and even helped Bonnie once again delivering corn sacks.

It would seem Bonnie had some affection for John, as during their last encounter, she would look down and disappointed as he rode away with Abigail back to his ranch. John seemed to be aware and amused by it, as he even stated to his wife that Bonnie blushing was his usual effect on most women. It is unknown if Bonnie ever knew about John’s death at the hands of government agents or not.

Drew MacFarlane[]

John met Drew while visiting Bonnie. She invited John to have tea with her and her father, and the three of them discussed about the changesbrought by the progressing technologies, and the resulting civilization of the West. Drew expressed his disgust for the "civilized government", and the men workingfor it,calling them spiesand saying that what they do is "nonsensical", with John agreeing completely. Following this discussion John and Drew will share a mutual respect for each other, in particular John will likeDrew for his honesty and good will.

Later Drew would accuse John of kidnapping his daughter, in a moment of rage caused by hisfear of losing her. Once herealized John's innocence he apologized and plead him to rescue Bonnie, with John reassuring Drew and swearingthat he would save her. Overall, Johncontinues to remember Drew fondly throughout the storyand he will even call him a "very good man" in various occasions.

Amos[]

Amos and John do not interact much within the story, however like Bonnie, it can be assumed that John feels internally grateful for as Amos was with Bonnie when she saved his life. Amos seems to respect John greatly, stating he would like to call John his friend.

Leigh Johnson[]

John is shown to have a positive relationship with the marshal, while John originally asks what's wrong with him after remembering what Dutch and the rest of the gang having problems with authority they eventually talk and John begins to respect him and help him clean up New Austin. When his search leads him to Mexico, John bids the marshal a sad yet firm goodbye, signifying their friendship.

Jonah[]

John describes Jonah as "not too bright, but he seems loyal."

Eli[]

Similar to Jonah, John has a good working relationship with Eli as the two participate in several missions together under the marshal.

Nigel West Dickens[]

While annoyed and temperamental around him, John is shown to have a soft spot for Dickens, going to great lengths to save him and even having him released from custody in Blackwater.

Seth Briars[]

John is completely disgusted with Seth's "hobby" and often gets angry at him and his pursuit of treasure, even yelling at him when the treasure turned out to almost nothing. Despite these shortcomings John still works well with Seth, helping him in turn for his help against Bill.

Irish[]

Similar to Seth, John gets very upset and frustrated with Irish's drinking problem and inability to depend on him when it comes to fighting. Unlike Seth, who stays and fights with John, Irish usually makes up an excuse to not be there or doesn't show up at all, much to John's frustration. However, by the time Irish helps John arrive into Mexico, they seem to have acquired a mutual respect, as Irish calls a John "...an angry and a f*ck ugly man; but not a bad one."

Landon Ricketts[]

John holds Landon in high respect, as he was John's boyhood hero. During their interactions, the two men get along well, often sharing stories, drinking, and participating in gun battles with the Army and banditos. When John and Landon finally part ways, the depart on good terms and give a wholehearted goodbye to one another.

Abraham Reyes[]

Not long after meeting Reyes, John immediately realizes he is a man of hypocrisy and is demeaning of women and other minorities, like the Chinese. John often times laughs at him and his blatant racism, sexism and his goals for Mexico. Upon leaving Mexico after Reyes assumes control, John tells him "remember why you wanted it."

Luisa Fortuna[]

John sees Luisa and her family as good people trapped in the middle of a deadly conflict; this is best seen when he helps them many times. John pities Luisa and her relationship with Abraham, as he knows that he is not loyal to her and likely will leave her, while she is completely in love with him and believes they will be married. After her death, John is angry and kills the men that claimed her life, although these killings are somewhat fruitless as Reyes completely forgets her and her name.

Vincente de Santa[]

The relationship between Vincente and John is somewhat between hostile and friendly during the mission "Mexican Caesar" before De Santa betrays Marston. In the beginning, Vincente is very open to John and welcomes him to Mexico. De Santa seems to respect John for his fighting skills and ambition while John makes sarcastic comments on his work for the Mexican Army mostly due to him becoming "Allende's dog", rather than staying out of the fight during the Rebel hideout raid and especially after Vincente's failed attempt to have both John and Espinoza killed during the train escort cargo job. However, Vincente is aware of John working for the Rebels and secretly knows that John has freed Abraham Reyes, the leader of the Rebels. So Vincente attempts to have him killed in the church in Chuparosa but fails when the Rebels and Abraham Reyes rescue John from being executed.

Agustin Allende[]

John is disgusted of Allende for being a womanizer and killing innocent people. Initially, he works for Allende to hunt down Williamson and Escuela but is completely unaware of the latter actually being under the protection of Allende who decides to manipulate John into doing his work. Unfortunately, after Reyes is rescued by John and Luisa, Allende retaliates and attempts to set up a trap for John in the church in Chuparosa but fails. In the mission "An Appointed Time", Allende attempts to flee with Williamson in an armored wagon but fails. John has the option to kill either Allende or Williamson or to watch both of them getting killed by Abraham Reyes.

Espinoza[]

The two seem to have genuine respect for one another due to both being professional gunmen and men of battle. They also seem to share general thoughts on issues such as De Santa's sexuality and cowardice. Despite this, he threatens Marston toward the end of his career several times when he steps out of line, reminding him that he is to be executed if he betrays the army. When busting into his room and engaging him in his final mission before his death, Espinoza angrily remarks: "I knew you were a traitor!" John, on the other hand, seems to view Espinoza as a sick and disgusting individual, referring to him as "that deranged captain" in a conversation with De Santa, and even saying to Espinoza himself, "You ain't right in the head, Captain."

Harold MacDougal[]

John regards Harold as a racist and naïve man who doesn't know anything, though he seems to think he knows everything. Despite this, John saves Harold's life multiple times, and helps him escape West Elizabeth.

Nastas[]

John has sympathy for Nastas and his tribe's past conflicts with the civilization of the USA. The situation draws parallels with what Arthur does with Eagle Flies in 1899 because of the US Army's cruel treatment towards his Wapiti tribe upon the signing of a treaty with Leviticus Cornwall. Both John and Arthur attempt to help both tribesmen who were considered decent to the protagonists but in the end, both Eagle Flies and Nastas die under tragic circ*mstances: Eagle Flies succumbed to his wound after being shot in the abdomen by Colonel Henry Favours and Nastas was shot in the head by Enepay for betraying the tribe and Dutch's gang. In retaliation, John kills the three men of Dutch's gang and avenges Nastas' death while Arthur shoots Favours back. In the end both John and Arthur are saddened by their deaths.

John Marston/Relationships (2024)

FAQs

Who is John Marston dating? ›

After Abigail returns, John proposes. With Sadie and Charles, John attacks Micah's new gang, where they find Dutch. In a Mexican standoff, Dutch unexpectedly shoots Micah, letting John finish him off, before leaving. John and Abigail later get married at their ranch.

Who does John Marston date? ›

In 1894, a prostitute named Abigail Roberts joined the gang. Despite having sexual relations with most of the gang members, she eventually fell in love with John. They later had a son together in 1895, whom they named Jack.

Does John actually love Abigail? ›

It wasn't until Abigail left him with his son in 1907 that John realized how much he had loved them and began to value the family life they could have. John finally turned his life around and built a ranch for his family, winning Abigail's affection once more and married her after many years.

Did Bonnie MacFarlane have a crush on John? ›

She then turns to Amos as he walks into the general store and then follows him in, marking her last appearance in the main storyline. It is suggested by Abigail that Bonnie had developed feelings for John. The way in which she stared at the two as they left also supports this.

Did Arthur Morgan love John? ›

In Arthur's journal, he reveals he has always liked John and that he has become less of a "fool" than he used to be. Furthermore, Arthur reveals that he broke him out of prison because he cared for him, rather than for just Abigail's or Jack's sake.

Is Jack actually John's son? ›

Jack Marston (John Marston, Jr.), is the son of John Marston and Abigail Roberts. As a child, Jack lives with his parents in the Van der Linde gang - an extended family of sorts.

Who is John's girlfriend in rdr2? ›

Born as Abigail Roberts in 1877, Abigail Marston was an orphan who became part of the Van der Linde gang in 1894. She served as a prostitute, interacting with many gang members. Her relationship with John Marston, which led to the birth of their son, Jack, caused tension within the gang.

Why was John Marston killed? ›

Top Voted Answer. He was used by the Government men to clean up the Wild West of America. Outlaws like him and his gang were no place for the nascent civilised cities the US Government wanted to establish.

How old was Marston when he died? ›

At the end of Red Dead 1, John Marston's grave has his birth and death dates: 1873–1911. That makes him 38 at the time of his death. Red Dead 2 takes place 12 years prior to Red Dead 1. Which makes Marston 26 during Red Dead 2.

Is John in love with Abigail? ›

John and Abigail were attracted to each other when she was 17. He was 23. After a courtship of three years, they married.

Is RDR3 coming? ›

Rockstar Games has been all in on Grand Theft Auto 6 so there's no chance RDR3 is coming anytime soon. The fact that there hasn't even been an official announcement yet that the game is in production is a bit concerning as well.

Does Abigail cheat on John RDR2? ›

In the first epilouge misson John and Abagil are trying to earn money, after you enter the general store you go to the doctors to see Abigail but right after the cut scene the door on the doctors says gone fishing. Did Abigail cheat on John? No. The fishing sign has been there long before the epilogue even started.

Did Bonnie fall in love with John? ›

IMHO it shows Bonnie was in love with John and had held out hope that he would return the feels.

Who was John Marston's daughter? ›

The Marston daughter is never seen in-game, nor can her grave be found. She is only mentioned in dialogue between John, Nigel, Bonnie, and Luisa. Her first name is never mentioned at any point and is unknown.

Who is Arthur Morgan girlfriend? ›

Arthur also falls in love with Mary Linton, and they eventually get engaged. The relationship doesn't work out, mostly because her family disapproves of Arthur's outlaw lifestyle. Mary's younger brother, Jamie, still likes Arthur regardless of his criminal escapades with the Van der Linde gang.

Is Sadie Adler in love with Arthur? ›

The fact that it's not transformed into a romantic love in-game doesn't keep it from being a fairly profound platonic love that strengthens both of them at a terrible time in their lives (and unfortunately still hurts Sadie in losing it given her demeanor in the Epilogue) and promotes platonic love as being valid and ...

How much older is Arthur to John? ›

According to the list during the events of Red Dead Redemption 2 John Marston was 26, whereas Arthur Morgan was 10 years older at 36.

How old was John Marston when he died? ›

At the end of Red Dead 1, John Marston's grave has his birth and death dates: 1873–1911. That makes him 38 at the time of his death.

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